Rogue class icon in WoW Forever

Rogue Changes in WoW Forever Every Rogue ability, talent and race change vs Classic

RogueNew abilities
New abilities
1
Changed abilities
5
Methodology
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WoW Forever gives the Rogue 1 new ability (⁨Venom⁩) and changes the numbers on 5 abilities and 24 talents compared with Classic. ⁨Mutilate⁩ gain 3 new ranks.

New abilities
1
New ranks
3Abilities: 1
Changed abilities
5
Changed talents
24
Races
92 new
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Rogue: biggest buffs and nerfs

vs Classic

The headline number of each changed ability or talent at its highest changed rank, compared with Classic. Green helps the player, red hurts.

Biggest buffs

Biggest nerfs

  • RuptureDamage over time −41% · Rank 4

New Rogue abilities

vs Classic

Trainer abilities the Rogue did not have in Classic, shown at their highest rank.

VenomLearned at level 401 rank
Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%.

Venom

25 Energy100 yd range

Instant

Requires Level 40

Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 9 sec 2 points: 12 sec 3 points: 15 sec 4 points: 18 sec 5 points: 21 sec

New Rogue spell ranks

vs Classic

Abilities already in the Classic client that WoW Forever trains to higher ranks: the top new rank's tooltip and the level of every new rank.

Mutilate · 3 new of 4 ranks
  • Rank 1 · level 30
  • Rank 3 · level 50
  • Rank 4 · level 60
Rank 4 tooltip

MutilateRank 4

60 EnergyMelee range

Instant

Requires Level 60

Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 50 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.

Rogue abilities changed from Classic

vs Classic

Every number that differs from the Classic Era client, rank by rank (Classic → WoW Forever).

RuptureRanks changed: 6 of 6
Damage over time −41% · Rank 4
  • Rank 6 · level 60Effect 16035
  • Rank 5 · level 52Effect 13722
  • Rank 4 · level 44Damage over time2716−41%
  • Rank 3 · level 36Effect 11811
2 lower ranks
  • Rank 2 · level 28Effect 1127
  • Rank 1 · level 20Effect 185

Now: Finishing move that causes damage over time, increased by your Attack Power. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 159 damage over 8 secs 2 points: 222 damage over 10 secs 3 points: 295 damage over 12 secs 4 points: 377 damage over 14 secs 5 points: 469 damage over 16 secs

FeintRanks changed: 5 of 5
  • Rank 5 · level 60Effect 18004,000
  • Rank 4 · level 52Effect 16003,000
  • Rank 3 · level 40Effect 13901,950
  • Rank 2 · level 28Effect 12401,200
1 lower rank
  • Rank 1 · level 16Effect 1150750

Now: Performs a feint, causing no damage but lowering your threat by a large amount, making the enemy less likely to attack you.

MutilateRanks changed: 1 of 4
Cost +50% · Rank 2
  • Rank 2 · level 40Cost40 Energy60 Energy+50%Learned at level140

Now: Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 25 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.

DistractRanks changed: 1 of 1
Duration—10 sec
  • Duration—10 sec

Now: Throws a distraction, attracting the attention of all nearby enemies and reducing their Stealth detection as if they were -1 levels lower for 10 seconds. Does not break stealth.

InitiativeRanks changed: 1 of 1
Range5 yd100 yd
  • Range5 yd100 yd

Tooltip text reworded only (6): Backstab, Eviscerate, Expose Armor, Gouge, Sap, Slice and Dice

Rogue talents changed from Classic

vs Classic

Talent ranks with different values. Blizzard hides most ranks above 1 until launch, so rank 1 is what we can compare today.

Assassination5 talents changed

Improved Eviscerate1 rank changed
  • Effect 1520

Now: Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 20%.

Improved Expose Armor1 rank changed
  • Effect 12510

Now: Reduces the Energy cost of your Expose Armor ability by 10, and refunds 2 Combo Points when cast with 5 Combo Points.

Vile Poisons1 rank changed
  • Effect 1420Effect 2420Effect 3840

Now: Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 20% and gives your poisons an additional 40% chance to resist dispel effects.

Improved Poisons1 rank changed
  • Effect 1210

Now: Increases the chance to apply Poisons to your target by 10%, and gives Poison applications a 50% chance to not consume a charge.

Improved Kidney Shot1 rank changed
  • Effect 1310

Now: Enemies Stunned by your Kidney Shot ability take 10% increased damage from your poisons and attacks.

Combat6 talents changed

Improved Gouge1 rank changed
  • Effect 10.5 sec1.5 sec

Now: Increases the duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 sec.

Endurance1 rank changed
  • Effect 145,00060

Now: Reduces the cooldown of your Sprint and Evasion abilities by 60%.

Improved Sprint1 rank changed
  • Effect 150100

Now: Gives a 100% chance to remove all movement impairing effects when you activate your Sprint ability.

Weapon Expertise1 rank changed
  • Effect 132

Now: Reduces the chance for your attacks to be Dodged or Parried by 2%.

Subtlety13 talents changed

Master of Deception1 rank changed
  • Effect 1315

Now: Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 3 levels higher.

Opportunity1 rank changed
  • Effect 1410Effect 2410

Now: Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 10%.

Sleight of Hand1 rank changed
  • Effect 1102Effect 2120

Now: Reduces the chance you are critically hit by attacks by 2% and increases the threat reduction of your Feint ability by 20%.

Elusiveness1 rank changed
  • Effect 145 sec90 sec

Now: Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 90 sec.

Camouflage1 rank changed
  • Effect 1315Effect 21 sec6 sec

Now: Reduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 15% and reduces its cooldown by 6 sec.

Initiative1 rank changed
  • Effect 125100

Now: Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

Improved Ambush1 rank changed
  • Effect 11545

Now: Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 45%.

Serrated Blades1 rank changed
  • Effect 1109

Now: Causes your attacks to ignore 9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%.

Heightened Senses1 rank changed
  • Effect 1315Effect 226Effect 326

Now: Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 3 levels higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 6%.

Dirty Deeds1 rank changed
  • Effect 11020

Now: Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.

Hemorrhage1 rank changed
  • Effect 3315

Now: An instant strike that deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to take 15% increased Rupture damage from the Rogue. Lasts 15 sec. Awards 1 Combo Point.

Deadliness1 rank changed
  • Effect 1210

Now: Increases your Attack Power by 10%.

Premeditation1 rank changed
Duration +100%
  • Duration10 sec20 sec+100%

Now: Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.

Talents with reworded text only (17): Remorseless Attacks, Malice, Ruthlessness, Murder, Relentless Strikes, Lethality, Cold Blood, Seal Fate, Precision, Improved Kick, Hack and Slash, Hack and Slash, Blade Flurry, Hack and Slash, Aggression, Ghostly Strike, Setup

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Rogue races in WoW Forever

vs Classic

Every race that can be a Rogue; highlighted races could not in Classic.

New racial abilities

  • Human portrait in WoW ForeverHumanWill to Survive: Instantly removes all Stun effects.
  • Orc portrait in WoW ForeverOrcShatter Curse: Instantly removes all Curses and Banes, and reduces all Magical damage taken by 5% for 8 sec.
  • Dwarf portrait in WoW ForeverDwarfEarth Fury: Increases your critical strike bonus to damage and healing by 2%.Big Game Hunter: Damage dealt versus Beasts increased by 5%.
  • Night Elf portrait in WoW ForeverNight ElfElune's Light: Increases your critical strike chance with all spells and attacks by 10% for 15 sec.
  • Undead portrait in WoW ForeverUndeadTouch of the Grave: Your spells and attacks have a 20% chance to drain Health from the target, up to 5% of your maximum Health.
  • Gnome portrait in WoW ForeverGnomeEureka!: Your non-periodic damaging abilities have their Energy cost reduced by 10% and deal 10% more damage for 8 sec.
  • Troll portrait in WoW ForeverTrollRapid Regeneration: Regenerate 50% of your maximum Health over 6 sec. Any movement, action, or damage taken will cancel the effect.
  • High Order Skyborne portrait in WoW ForeverHigh Order SkyborneNewRead Leyline: Attempt to tap into the power of a nearby leyline, increasing your Health and Mana regeneration by 100%. Lasts 30 sec if no leyline is nearby, and 15 min if one is found.Walk on Air: Glide downward through the air for 10 sec while controlling your direction of travel.Elemental Insight: Damage dealt versus Elementals increased by 5%.Wind Blessed: Increases your spellcasting, melee, and ranged Haste by 3%.
  • Windshaper Skyborne portrait in WoW ForeverWindshaper SkyborneNewWalk on Air: Glide downward through the air for 10 sec while controlling your direction of travel.Elemental Insight: Damage dealt versus Elementals increased by 5%.Wind Blessed: Increases your spellcasting, melee, and ranged Haste by 3%.Skysight: Attempt to draw power from a convergence of elements and receive its blessing, increasing your movement and mounted movement speeds by 10%. Lasts 30 sec if no elemental convergence is nearby, and 15 min if one is found.

Data: WoW Forever client 1.60.1.70685. How we source this

Rogue players can choose from 9 races in WoW Forever (⁨Human⁩, ⁨Orc⁩, ⁨Dwarf⁩, ⁨Night Elf⁩, ⁨Undead⁩, ⁨Gnome⁩, ⁨Troll⁩, ⁨High Order Skyborne⁩, and ⁨Windshaper Skyborne⁩). Mutilate changed the most among its abilities (Cost ⁨+50%⁩). 24 talents have different values, starting with Improved Eviscerate. 23 more abilities and talents only had their tooltip reworded.

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WoW Forever Rogue changes FAQ

What changed for the Rogue in WoW Forever?

The Rogue gets 1 new abilities and 3 new spell ranks, and 5 abilities and 24 talents have different values than in Classic.

What new Rogue abilities are in WoW Forever?

The new Rogue abilities are ⁨Venom⁩.

Which Rogue spells get new ranks in WoW Forever?

⁨Mutilate⁩ gain 3 new ranks in total.

Did Rogue talents change in WoW Forever?

Yes, 24 Rogue talents have different values than in Classic, starting with Improved Eviscerate.

Which races can be a Rogue in WoW Forever?

⁨Human⁩, ⁨Orc⁩, ⁨Dwarf⁩, ⁨Night Elf⁩, ⁨Undead⁩, ⁨Gnome⁩, ⁨Troll⁩, ⁨High Order Skyborne⁩, and ⁨Windshaper Skyborne⁩ can all be a Rogue; ⁨High Order Skyborne⁩ and ⁨Windshaper Skyborne⁩ could not in Classic.