WoW Forever Talent Points Explained: 51 Points

Talents in WoW Forever work the way Classic players remember: one point per level from 10, three trees per class, and deeper talents gated behind points spent in the same tree. What changed is the content of the trees: 331 of the 432 talents differ from Classic. This guide explains the rules exactly as our calculator applies them, and how to plan and share a build.

How many talent points do you get?

One point per level from 10 to 60 inclusive is 51 points. You never get more, so a build always has to leave things out. The table shows where you are at each milestone.

Tiers, prerequisites and ranks

1. 1
   Spend in tiers of 5

   Tier 1 is open from the start. Every next tier needs 5 more points spent in that same tree: 5 for tier 2, 10 for tier 3, up to 30 for tier 7. Points in other trees do not count.

2. 2
   Respect prerequisites

   65 talents need another talent first, shown as an arrow in the calculator. For example, Mortal Strike needs Sweeping Strikes, and Anger Management needs all 5 ranks of Improved Tactical Mastery.

3. 3
   Fill ranks

   Talents have 1 to 5 ranks: 85 have 1 rank, 95 have 2, 88 have 3, 2 have 4 and 162 have 5. Each rank costs one point.

4. 4
   You cannot pull points from under a deeper talent

   Removing a point is only allowed if every talent you still have keeps its tier requirement and prerequisites. That is the in-game rule, and the calculator follows it.

The 31-point talents

The bottom of each tree is the reward for going deep. These are the tier 7 talents in the Forever client:

Two trees (Survival and Affliction) have a tier 7 talent whose name is still hidden in the client. Check each tree in the talent calculator.

Using the WoW Forever talent calculator

1. 1
   Pick your class

   Open the talent calculator and choose a class, or go straight to one, for example the Mage talent calculator.

2. 2
   Add and remove points

   The counter shows points spent and the level you need for them (points + 9). Talents you cannot take yet are greyed out.

3. 3
   Follow the arrows

   Prerequisite arrows show which talent unlocks which. Hover any talent for its tooltip.

4. 4
   Reset a tree or start over

   Each tree has its own reset, so you can rework one tree without losing the others.

5. 5
   Share your build

   The address bar updates with a build code (?b=). Copy the link to share it; anyone who opens it sees the same build.

The build code is one digit per talent (its rank) in tier and column order, one block per tree, separated by dashes, with trailing zeros dropped. For example 2305-0-5001 means three trees: the first with four talents taken, the second empty, the third with two. It is the same shape players know from other Classic calculators.

Respec and dual spec

You can reset your talents at your class trainer for a gold fee, as in Classic; Blizzard used cheaper resets during the beta and has not published launch prices. Blizzard says dual specialization unlocks at level 40 from your class trainer, so you can save a second set of talents (for example a leveling build and a dungeon build) and swap between them outside combat.